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A Tartarian Prince ruling what is nowadays China

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Hi there,

In the Universal Magazine Of Knowledge And Pleasure, year1803 p.175

There is an article about a Tartarian Prince who was the Throne of China until taken over by the new government

So it was generally accepted at some point that a ruler from Tartaria ruled China

( the magazine is available for free in google books )
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28 Nov 2017, 10:53 #2

https://play.google.com/store/books/det ... EsC&rdot=1

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05 Dec 2017, 09:58 #3

Excellent thanks this is great! Worth mentioning also is Page 12-13 which has an entry "The History of Chagin Girrey, the last Chan of the Crimea" ,he is apparently the last sovereign of Crimean Tartary.

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17 Jan 2018, 19:08 #4
In "Peregrinação" book (1614) (http://purl.pt/82) of Fernão Mendes Pinto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernão_Mendes_Pinto), he mentions

a place named "Moscumbià"

// Lake. Pinto mentions this lake in terms of relata refero andexpressing doubts about the validity of this information: two rivers that meetCalindão (GT: Liau Tung gulf) flow from Moscumbià lake. The fact that FMPexpresses doubts about this information is understood here as concerning thebasin of the rivers, not the existence of the lake itself.

Thus we have considered:

1) by homophony Moscumbià relates to the Muscovy (so states FMPP vol 3,p. 107; vol 4, p. 26) and empire identified with the northern regions of Asiafrom west to east: the province crossed by the river Leysacotay (GT: Amur)borders the lands of the Moscovitas in FMP 202ii.

2) By geographical context it would be a lake towards the north and east ofAsia as the rivers flow to Calindão (GT: Liau Tung).

3) By description: a big lake.

Geographic description of Muscovy land is indirect, Pinto does not claim tohave reached their land. A direct description of Muscovy people is given in303ii.

Possible: 53N, 108E.

Mendes Pinto Maps

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... c&hl=en_US

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